Tuesday, December 02, 2008

In which no Cylons were revealed

I arrived to find Scott and Chris playing Race, so I joined in. After a game, Travis showed up and we played Middle Kingdom. I lost. Badly. By that point Jon had arrived so we set up Wabash Cannonball. This is a minimalist train/economic game, but I think I could obsess over it. One reason -- Chris won with ~ $35 dollars, and you start with $24 (with 5 players). Another is that it plays in under an hour, but packs in lots of decisions. Gotta love that.

(One note for those who did play -- Apparently you can capitalize and choose to not auction a stock, and that's a relatively common play once you know what you are doing). This has to hit the table again.

At this point Tiffany had arrived, so we played Die Mauer. I lost, but not overwhelmingly so. Then people starting peeling away so Race closed out the night. At the very end we tried the drafting variant (mentioned in the rules). Recommended.

As the holidays approach, our thoughts turn towards long games. Chris and I discussed perhaps 7 Ages, or Here I Stand. A big game of something should be setup ... that's what holidays are for.

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At 5:00 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Brian said...

You know you are joinsing for a game to arrive when you get a package and then just think -- "Oh, its my new Super BlueRay player. Damn

At 5:19 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

Let's not go overboard.

7 ages during the winter holiday season will make me very sad. I want this to hit the table badly, but not when I'm gone.

A few random things:

Amazon has a sale on Guitar Hero World Tour with Guitar for 60 dollars (free shipping) today only.

I am going to Baton Rouge probably a week from Friday and staying until January. If we plan a big game on that weekend, I could delay a day or so to participate.

At 5:22 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Brian said...

By the way, this guy from BGG is having a decent trade auction. And he's local, so you could just swing by and pick up the games. Does anybody know him?

At 5:24 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Brian said...

He's selling TI-3 + expansion. Since shipping will probably be $20, us locals (well, those who like the game) should get a deal.

At 6:22 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

I do like the game.

Maybe I could arrange to pick it up on the way out of town if I did win the auction.

At 8:16 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Ted Kostek said...

I would be interested in a long game.

At 9:07 PM, December 02, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brian, I keep thinking about Le Havre also. I actually thought, "Oh, it'd be nice if I get home and I le have Le Havre." I didn't know I could groan at myself, but I think I did.

Sounds like 7 Ages is a possibility. Michael, I doubt we'd play it without you, since the whole reason I got the game was on your recommendation. Are you thinking about Dec 13th?

Like Brian said, we could also break out Here I Stand if we can't get 7 Ages going before Michael leaves.

Ted! Good to hear from you. You're certainly invited--we'll post details when we figure them out.

We're not committed to playing in any specific location yet (meaning if the Wiles clan (what's the plural of Wiles?) is interested, we could bring whatever game is chosen over there).

I was skeptical about draft RftG, but it's actually very interesting. The drafting is a lot of fun. I'm not sure I have the ability to value cards to the degree I'd need to to ever be competitive, though. Brian had a resounding victory--I think he may have almost doubled second place. I'd be interested to see how Michael does with this variant.

I don't know the auction holder. Since he mentioned moving, it doesn't sound like he's staying here in SA, but rather going somewhere else for school.

Keythedal...hmm. Goa....hmmm.

At 9:15 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

I miss long games. Give me another 5-6 months or so, and I should be able to get a 12 hour kitchen pass....

I'm seriously considering doing a similar auction myself to clear out the dregs in my closet I'll never play again. It won't be the insane grand culling I did after college when I took about 50 games to Half Price Books (including several how semi-Holy Grails) for about $50 in revenue, but having two completely full closets of games is pretty silly. I'll think on this further.... I think I could lose 10-15 games and never miss them.

At 9:27 PM, December 02, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm thinking the same thing about paring my library and replacing some games with new ones. Not to the degree Ben is, but Brian got me looking at my Friendless statistic (basically, the degree to which I actually make use of my game library), and it's pretty low. I think it's hurt by me listing all my expansions as owned but not logging each base game and expansion when I play them (things like Arkham Horror and Battlelore, especially). I don't know what the answer is to that, but I'm trying to figure it out. Some people list their expansions as not owned but add them to the description of their base game--I think I may do that.

At 9:29 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...


Draft race sounds interesting.(Incidentally booster draft Magic is one of my favorite games)

The Friday I am referring to is December 12th, but I am flexible since I am driving. So if 7 ages was planned I would rework my plans without a doubt.

At 9:31 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

My Friendless statistic would be pretty low with the exception of Rock Band.

At 10:03 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

I'm analyzing my own feelings regarding the space allocation and financial cost vs. benefit of board games compared to video games or even books. Like Jon, I'll probably get at least 80 hours of fun out of Fallout 3 (~$60). I can't remember the last board game that came close to that fun factor. Heretical thoughts, I know. Dramatically less social free time for some time to come isn't helping the analysis. My love of board game collecting and playing since a little tike brings it all back into balance quite a bit, but I need to clean house if for no other reason than to make room for better games to come.

BTW, I just read the rules to Conflict of Heroes. It looks like a ton of fun for those of you into that sort of thing.

At 10:09 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

But Ben, if you had 5 clones that you could summon up at will (Gary!!!!!) who would play board games with you, I bet you could easily get 80 hours of enjoyment out of some of the games in your collection.

I dunno, I can't even count the number of hours Civ IV has given me, so maybe there is something there.

At 10:33 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

Speaking of games, i discovered how to actually work BSW. This is not a good thing. But Dominion goes a lot quicker. Must stop and work on exam..... after one more game

At 10:44 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

I know I will be trading a few games after Christmas. SInce there are quite a few (that might be an exaggeration as my collection is small) that haven't seen the light of day since I got them. And the local trade seems interesting. I shall have to consider it. Perhaps.

At 10:51 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

I think you're right, Michael. The answer is fewer, better board games... or at least spending more time with the ones I already have. As a wee lad I averaged 1-2 new Avalon Hill or SPI games per year and played almost all of them until they were (no exaggeration) falling apart. Now that I can afford pretty much as many games as I want, I'm not spending as much time enjoying each of them. Okay, way too much introspection. I'll call this the RRoD Blues.

BTW, speaking of Civ 4, did Colonization ever turn out to be any fun?

I am working on the clones... unfortunately the first one is only 4 weeks old and is mainly interested in milk at the moment. My wife predicts between her influence and mine she'll end up a "lipstick Geek."

At 10:56 PM, December 02, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

Ahh Colonization.

The game as shipped is broken.


Firaxis has very intelligently continued their policy of shipping the game with a very mod-friendly setup.

To be honest, I haven't kept up with the user community for the game, but I have no fear that at some point the community will have a mod that makes the game fun.

Incidentally, Fall From Heaven continues to just dominate my play time. The fact that they have put this together for free is amazing.

At 7:05 PM, December 03, 2008, Blogger scott said...

Remind me what/where is BSW again? I might be interested in a long game as well.

At 11:12 PM, December 03, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

Scott -- http://www.brettspielwelt.de/

And as for long games. What about long Euro's? There have to be some around here somewhere. (Jeff and Amy - we need to game more. You guys still need to get more Agricola in, right? )

At 11:19 PM, December 03, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BSW is BrettspielWelt, a German online gaming site that has implementations of many popular board games and lets you play them against other humans connected to the net (no AI as far as I know).

You can play through a downloaded client on your computer or through a web client through your internet browser of choice. Personally, I think the downloaded client is faster.

Most of the site is understandably in German, and many of the players speak German. But there's often a series of flags on the web pages (English/German/some other language) that you can click on to see that language's version of that page.

They have Dominion. They don't have RftG, though.

The main site is:


If you do a Google search for brettspielwelt, it brings up a help site called:


that seems to help you along. It's not the real BSW but it seems to be a fan-made help site, and it doesn't appear malicious.

Definitely worth trying.

As far as the long game goes, there seems to be underwhelming interest for a day dedicated to 7 Ages in the next week or two. Maybe it's the game, maybe it's the time committment, maybe it's the proximity to the holidays or end of the year work duties--who knows? I guess we'll keep the idea open and discuss next time we're all together and see if we can drum up a bit more support then.

At 9:23 AM, December 04, 2008, Blogger Amy said...

Longer Euros? Die Macher!

At 12:20 PM, December 04, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

Of that.. potato farming game.... whose name escapes me.

At 2:04 PM, December 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I've definitely been waiting to try Die Macher. I remember one of my first SABG gaming sessions, Die Macher was played at Jeff and Amy's. It certainly was a bit much for me to chew off as a first game (and the game was full), so playing with the non-Die Macher group seemed the path of least resistance. I've seriously been wanting to play it ever since.

I was trying to look back at my logged games to see what I played instead. I think it was Battlelore on 5/19/07 against Steve. I laughed when I saw what my first logged games with SABG were:

2 plays of Celebrities.

At 3:08 PM, December 04, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

That is starting things off on a great note!

I guess it was all downhill from there though.

At 3:13 PM, December 04, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

We need to play some celebrities.

It has been a long time since I've played.


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