Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Old School




Lots of not-very-new games being played and planned by the SABG recently.

Tikal, Die Macher, Die Mauer, "The Big", Puerto Rico (Amy stomped Tiffany and me on Saturday.)

Good to see some the classics getting some love.

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At 9:21 AM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Amy said...

The only new game that I'm aware of that SABGers are playing is Race. Are there any others?

I definitely haven't been able to play enough games recently, so it's good to go back to the "old favorites" when I do get a chance to play.

 
At 11:01 AM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

I will always play old favorites. Especially if that old favorite is Tikal. Just saying. Or Mexica.

Random thought: Does the spielbyweb count for my game count on bgg?

 
At 11:05 AM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Amy said...

Yes, SBW will count it automatically when the game is over, if you click on the link to do so and you're currently logged in to BGG. Some people (Brian, for one, I think) don't count games played online, but I do.

 
At 12:29 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger seanp said...

Here are the new-ish games I've seen within the last few months:

Race For The Galaxy, Glory To Rome, Phoenicia, Neuroshima Hex, 1960, Die Kutfhart

But I love some classics too, and am glad to see some good euros coming back around.

 
At 6:26 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

If I don't tear the shrink off a new game once a week or so I start to get the shakes. That said, I did just pick up a copy of the old school Merchant of Venus.

New games not counting modules or expansions -- nothing amazingly wonderful comes to mind for 2008. Age of Gods is light and fun. Axis and Allies: Guadalcanal looks fun, as does FAB: Bulge. Pacific Typhoon seems intriguing, and I am having fun playinf Kingsburg via Java. Hopefully we'll see Day of Heroes in the coming days.

 
At 6:27 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Sorry for the typos.... Blackberry. Anyone pre-order Agricola?

 
At 7:38 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

More ramblings from an overheated brain: Europe Engulfed just arrived. Takers?

House rule for RtL I am thinking of to make it easier: Overlord henchmen can't stack on world map. They hate each other almost as much of the heroes. Otherwise a potentially gamebreaking strat is to buy 5 henchmen, stack them, nuke Tamalir in 2 turns. Another rule that makes sense is to mandate the OL buy story cards every third upgrade or so. Otherwise the OL can ignore his story and just powerbuff himself.

 
At 8:38 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Rob said...

I count online games for BGG.

I preordered Agricola....and started selling my game collection because I won't be going back to it for a while after I get Agricola.

Oh , and it seems like an overheated Blackberry to me...

 
At 8:39 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Jonathan W. said...

Dang Ben... A triple post?

Making me do something as an admin and clean up your mess.

On other news, I also own EE and am very interested in playing it. I played a few turns with Brian before and it was fun.

 
At 8:42 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

I ore-ordered Agricola as well. I look forward to when it arrives. And plan to post something when it gets here about breaking it in :)

 
At 8:44 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Thanks, Jon. Apparently accidentally hitting back on the Blackberry, then madly hitting cancel, cancel, cancel(!) causes multiple posts.

Let's plan and schedule EE. Is yours stickerized? Wait... don't tell me... need to stay motivated.

Hooray, the official RtL FAQ was released today, solving pretty much all holes in the rules... right? Crossing fingers...

 
At 8:45 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Blast! The top five received trophies...

http://tinyurl.com/6jft8j

 
At 8:50 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Weekend project for SABG?

http://tinyurl.com/34llpl

 
At 9:07 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger scott said...

can i have a definition of old?
to me acquire, dune, win place and show; kremlin, and diplomacy would be old by way of example
most of the games most of the folks are listing all sound like spring chickens to me

 
At 9:18 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Raab said...

I could bring Cosmic Encounter and Nuclear war/excalation/ proliferation if you want to reach back.

Seriously though, i do have a copy of Survive that is deliciously fun to play with the right people.

And on the note of playing more games... I will be starting something on the other side of town if anyone has a wednesday night free.

 
At 10:08 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ted Kostek said...

Clearly "old" is a relative term. Diplomacy et al are themselves Mayflies compared with chess or go.

I would count the new Descent expansion as a new game.

If by "the other side of town" you mean the west side near Sea World, then color me interested. I live about 1 mile from Sea World. We used to have Wed night West side games, but I almost never made it. I'd make a serious effort to attend.

I'd be more than happy to informally declare Wed night "classics" night. A "classic" would be anything more than 3 yrs old and in the top 100 on BGG.

 
At 10:45 PM, April 08, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

I'm hoping the other side is Alamo Heights / Terrell Hills.

 
At 12:42 AM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Chris said...

Jeff, that picture/caption combo is fantastic. I WANT that on a T-shirt.

It reminds me of a little infant outfit I saw in a store in Vegas that read on the front:
I only cry when ugly people hold me.

(more fun ones at davidandgoliathtees.com)

Damn. I got EE too (and no stickers yet). Clearly I should have just let everyone else bring their copies around and played with those. At least it doesn't sound like I need to be in any hurry to sticker it up.

Oh, and I preordered Agricola as well. Again, I haven't caught on to the philosophy yet of letting other people buy the games.

 
At 7:23 AM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Amy said...

We pre-ordered Agricola also, but it looks like it's going to be arriving about when our boardgaming time officially goes to zero.

 
At 7:37 AM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Raab said...

I will be at Atomix Comics on broadway. So, alamo heights/terrel hills it is. I am bringing a true classic, Settlers of Catan, along with Niagara, and Ticket to ride. The group i am meeting with are all relatively new people to the boardgame scene so i am starting them off slow and moving up to some of the bigger/nicer titles.
Should be there from 5:30 - 8 (when the store closes)

 
At 7:40 AM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Jeff said...

Puerto Rico 2002
Tikal 1999
El Grande 1995
Die Mauer 1987
Die Macher 1986

All at least 5+ years old.

Two are 20+. Wow. Those can legitimately be called old school.

I like Ted's 3 years old/top 100 benchmark. You could probably extend that out to top 200 safely. Lotsa good stuff in the 101-200 range.

 
At 12:01 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Chris said...

I do too. Old school night sounds like a good idea, Ted. I still want to play Puerto Rico again at some point. I think I played it once when I got first introduced into the group, not since. Looking at my BGG profile, that was exactly a year ago! April 2007. Wow, where does the time go?

I definitely want to play Die Macher at some point. I was regretting a bit not picking it up when it was on sale at DL, but at least Travis did. So there's ONE game that I can hopefully play that someone else bought.

I haven't counted any of my online games in my logged games basically because I followed Brian's lead on it. That's ok--really the only thing I've played online more than once is Tichu (probably about 20 games worth). But I'm pretty sure the rule about logging online games is "there is no rule." You do what you like. Logging them seems reasonable to me.

 
At 1:27 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Tiffany said...

Another game of Puerto Rico sounds fun. If there is gaming Saturday the people want to play it at I can bring it. If not a Monday night thing might work too, or some other scheduled gaming evening/morning/event. My copy hasn't been played yet, and it needs to be. :)

 
At 2:07 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Ted Kostek said...

Looking over at the ratings on BGG, I noticed that the top 200 is about where the ratings drop below 7. Seems that's a pretty good area to put the cut-off for classic.

My own personal rule will be that a "classic" is over 3 yrs old and rated 7 or higher on BGG.

 
At 6:16 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Travis said...

If anyone is gathering on Saturday, then I can bring Die Macher; if there is enough interest it will get played. All of this talk about "classic" games has got me itching to play.

I was considering hosting but I have a really small house with very little table space. I will be house shopping this summer and will keep the good cause in mind!

Anyway, its great to come home from a long day at work and sift through this forum; it reminds me that the great roman, Status Quo, has not quite quelled the spirit of theoretical industry nor stifled the call for virtual interstellar space exploration. {Peer smugly over cards and reply, "Glory to Rome"!}

P.S. I believe Raab's "other side of town" refers to Broadway.

 
At 7:38 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Carlos said...

Regarding Europe Engulfed, I have played once with Mark and Jose. Great game, but as you probably know it can take a while. Mine is stickerized and is eager to play again. I may also be able to offer my house.

I reccomend the optional rule that reduces the amount of dice you role.

To me, EE classifies as an old school game.

Jose, I am still planning to play Asia Engulfed with you ASAP.

 
At 8:10 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Reducing the amount of dice you roll? Heresy!

Hooray! More gaming in my neck of the woods. My new gaming room should be sheet rocked and tiled in about 2-3 weeks, then comes painting, so it will be a month. Sign that you're a hard core gamer: remodeling your house to add shelf and gaming space.

 
At 8:12 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

"...virtual interstellar space exploration..."

Are you talking about TI:3? I'm in.

 
At 8:30 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Carlos said...

Let me masquerade as Rob for a moment. Vassal has an EE module that looks nice. I have yet to try it. But this may be a way to go because this game can take long and it demands to be finished.

But I would still like to play FTF. As you know I am hesitant to have large groups over at my house when I cannot push my wife and kids out the door. But a small group of 2 or 3 for a game like EE requires no such harsh measures on my part.

Anyway, think about it. A good block war game like EE, AE, or EastFront are always a welcome venue at my house.

Ben, will you be painting the dog house all by yourself?

As for TI3. I have been talking with Mark and Jose about having a newbie game at my place sometime soon after tax season. The goal is to get some more people indoctrinated into the ways of TI3. I figure we would play with Shattered Empire, but with very few optional rules. No firm date set yet, but hopefully withing two or three weeks after the 15th.

 
At 8:55 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Its actually a third of our main house that we've gutted to add workout space and a bit of gaming/library space. The dog house is turning into more of a dedicated guest house lately. My wife is the painter.

Raab: I couldn't make it to Atomix tonight, but its so close to home that I expect I could do so in the future.

I would love to try more TI:3, but I'm afraid to sit next to Jon, Michael, Steve, Chris, or especially Chad.

Chris, Chad, anyone: RtL?

 
At 10:39 PM, April 09, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

I dunno why you would be afraid of sitting next to me. Didn't we set up a nice "wall" of some sort last time we played?

As I recall we finished 1-2 so it was a mutually beneficial plan.

 
At 6:35 AM, April 10, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

Yes, you respected the sanctity of my V-wall throughout the game, and it was (cue Kazakh accent) very nice! Still, do you think we could try 2-1 next time instead of 1-2? Perhaps you'd be willing to serve as the V-wall between Chad and I?

 
At 6:42 PM, April 10, 2008, Blogger Travis said...

I am all for a newbie game of TI; indoctrinate away! Also, since we are talking about classic games here, does anyone own the John Carter of Mars game from the 70's? I'm a big fan of the books and would love to see the game.

 
At 7:34 PM, April 10, 2008, Blogger Ben said...

I love Edgar Rice Burroughs, especially the Mars stuff. I never played the old SPI game... I was just a wee tike with a small allowance squandered largely on Squad Leader and Dungeons and Dragons when the game was in print.

 
At 7:42 PM, April 10, 2008, Blogger Carlos said...

I'll bet you could get the John Carter game on eBay. They usually have LOTS of the SPI games. I still have a few Science Fiction SPI games, although I have not played them in 25+ years. Last summer I had a big purge of my games, but I would not part with these.

Keep your eyes open for the TI3 post in the weeks to come. I think that Mark wants to invite a friend of his who I know from other sessions. It would be nice to havr at least one other experienced player to help keep things moving.

 

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